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The Reality of Taliban Peace Talks

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Below are some of the demands made by the Taliban to the Government of Pakistan and HH Younus AlGohar’s views regarding these demands:

 1)   Introduce Sharia Law in Courts

There are Sharia courts in Pakistan already. Now, this is very interesting: the round of talks between the Government of Pakistan and the Taliban, 'They should be dealt with in the light of Quran not according to the constitution of Pakistan,' whereas if you study the Constitution of Pakistan, the Quran and Sunnah (Customs of Prophet Mohammad) have the supreme authority in the Constitution of Pakistan. These two things are really contradictory. When Quran and Sunnah have the supreme authority according to the Constitution of Pakistan and then they say, 'Forget about the Constitution, talk about Quran,' it’s ridiculous.

 2)   Introduce Islamic System of Education

Just the Islamic System, not Islam? What is the ‘Islamic System of Education’? The system is not Islamic or un-Islamic, it is what you teach. What is the Islamic System of Education? Can we teach pornography according to the Islamic System, because you are just talking about the system, not the contents? There is no system in Islam of education.

Prophet Mohammad said, 'I am the City of Knowledge, and Ali is the gateway to the City of Knowledge.'

According to Islam, Prophet Mohammad is the source of knowledge, yet you do not respect him. Where is the education now? You blaspheme Prophet Mohammad; you say, 'If one thinks about Prophet Mohammad during his/her Salat, their Salat is corrupted.' Where do you expect to obtain education from? You don’t have access to either Prophet Mohammad or Ali; they are the source of knowledge; what is the Islamic System of Knowledge? Maybe they are trying to say that there should be no chemistry education or physics education, rather, they should only teach Quran and Sunnah. If this is what they mean, then they are really stupid because all this knowledge of science, medical science and physics, came from Muslim scientists. Ibn-e-Sina (Avicenna) was the first surgeon in the history of medical science. All pharmaceutical knowledge comes from Muslims scientists. If they only learned how to recite Quran and read Hadith, they would not have become scientists. What book did they read before they became scientists? Even if you want to study Quran, this Quran is not complete.

His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi was giving a speech in Muscat and somebody stood up on his feet and asked HDE, in a very disrespectful way, 'The deen (religion) is complete! We have never heard that a heart can recite the name of Allah. When the deen is complete, where has Dhikr Allah (Remembrance of God) come from; where has Dhikr-e-Qalb (Invocation of the Heart) come from? What are you talking about?' HDE said to him, 'Who said the deen is complete? On Hujjat ul Widha (Last Address of Prophet Mohammad), Sharia was complete, not Tariqa.' HDE said, 'Then, all these individuals like Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani, Data Ali Hajweri, Lal Shahbaz Qalandar, and Khwaja Ghareeb Nawaz all went into the jungles. They all went through the process of purgation, mortification, and purification of their heart and soul. And only after the exhaustive austerities and struggle against their Nafs, they became heavenly people on Earth; if they were wrong, how did they become so close to God?'

This Quran is incomplete because it talks about Sharia only. Even if the deen is complete, you do not have that complete deen with you. Only one portion of deen is mentioned in Quran, the other portion is hidden and mysterious. Abu Hurairah said, 'I told you about one knowledg. If I tell you about the other knowledge that I learned from Prophet Mohammad, then you would cut my throat.' Where is that knowledge? At least one part of the knowledge is missing from your Quran. Quran talks about Momineen (Enlightened Ones/Believers), Quran talks about Auliyah (saints), Quran talks about Faqr (Spiritual Poverty), but where does Quran talk about how to become a Momin? How to become a Saint of God? How to come out from darkness and enter light?

Quran said, 

ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ  

[2:257]

'God protects those who believe; he brings them out from darkness into light.'

The Quran mentions this, but how will this happen? Where does Quran tell you’re the process, the procedure? How will you become a Momin? For example, according to the Quranic verse Hujarat,

قَالَتِ الْأَعْرَابُ آمَنَّا ۖ قُل لَّمْ تُؤْمِنُوا وَلَٰكِن قُولُوا أَسْلَمْنَا وَلَمَّا يَدْخُلِ الْإِيمَانُ فِي قُلُوبِكُمْ

[49:14] 

'The Arabs said they are Momin. Say unto them that they are not Momin. They should rather say, "We have submitted to Islam and have become Muslim." And you will not become Momin until Emaan enters your heart.'

This explanation comes from Quran, however it is very sad that Quran does not tell you how to bring Emaan into your heart; Quran only tells you that you will become Momin when Emaan enters your heart. Then, who will tell us?

Quran said,

فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ

[21:7]

'So go and ask people of Dhikr about the knowledge that you do not know.' 

Now, if Quran had this knowledge in it, then it would not divert you to certain people. If Quran had this knowledge it would tell you to read the Quranic verse Baqara, or Nisa, or Ka`haf, or Mai`da; but Quran didn’t say that. Quran itself says that there is some knowledge that it doesn’t have.

According to a Hadith, Prophet Mohammad said, 'Some individuals in my Ummah (nation) are the keys to Dhikr.' Another Hadith mentions, 'O' my Companions, shall I not tell you about those who are the best among all of you?' The Companions said, 'O' Prophet, enlighten us,' and the Prophet said, 'The best among you are those that remind you of God; that you see them and start doing Dhikr Allah straight away. You look at their face and you will miss God. You look at their face and you will start thinking about God.' This is a very common translation, but His Divine Eminence Gohar Shahi gave us a different meaning of this sentence. HDE said, 'Even when you see somebody who is crippled, or is limping, you will remember God. This is not what it means. This is about people; you will see them and Dhikr Allah will start in your heart.'

What is this knowledge for which one must go for to the people of Dhikr? At the very least, all Muslims must agree that this knowledge is not in the Quran. If this knowledge was in Quran, the Quran would not say, 'فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ'. The Ulema cannot say that they have this knowledge, because if Quran does not have this knowledge, how can you say you have it? You read this Quran. Only those have that knowledge that read Quran-e-Maqnoon - and it is hidden inside the heart of Prophet Mohammad. In order to access that Quran, you need to gain access to Prophet Mohammad. The Mysterious Knowledge was shared by all five Grand Messengers, so there have been five portions of that knowledge. God gave one portion of that knowledge to Prophet Adam, and what he did was keep half of the portion for himself and shared the other half with the saints. All Messengers were given two types of knowledge. Type one is printed in the Quran, Bible, Torah, Talmud, Psalms of David and the Old and New Testaments; anyone who has access to it can read it. There was another type of knowledge: the Mysterious Knowledge. This knowledge was given to Prophet Adam, Prophet Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Prophet Mohammad. In order to access the Mysterious Knowledge, either you lived then or you live now; equally for the people of both periods, you have to access it spiritually - because that knowledge is mysterious and hidden. It’s not like if Prophet Mohammad was here today, you could ask him, 'Prophet Mohammad, why don’t you share that Mysterious Knowledge with us?' No.

This knowledge in the Quran is not the knowledge that is in the city of Prophet Mohammad. When Prophet Mohammad said, 'I am the city of Knowledge,' he was talking about some other type of knowledge, because the knowledge in the Quran is given to everybody; Ali cannot be the gateway to that knowledge. What you have and other clerics have, did you obtain this by passing through Hazrat Ali before you went to the Madrassa? It simply means that Hazrat Ali is the gateway to some other type of knowledge - and that is the Esoteric Knowledge. This mysterious and hidden knowledge was given to all Messengers: one portion of Exoteric Knowledge and one portion of the Mysterious Knowledge. Without that knowledge, you cannot access God. You go to mosques, temples, churches and synagogues today; you have all that knowledge in all these worship places, but you get bored. You do not feel God’s presence there. Why? Because, they are empty of that knowledge. When you have that knowledge in your heart, then all these worship places will come and circumbulate around you; whoever has that knowledge will become holy. You and I are not holy; it is the light and the knowledge that makes us holy. One day you are a Kafir (Infidel) and after that knowledge goes inside your heart, you will become a saint. 

HDE Gohar Shahi said, 'Even the son of a Kafir (infidel) is born into this world with the ability to become a saint.'

When the son of a Kafir learnt the Spiritual Knowledge, he became a saint; despite being a Muslim, you were unable to become a saint!

They are talking about Islamic system. What is Islamic System of Education? Does this Islamic System of Education exist anywhere in this world including Saudi Arabia, UAE or any Muslim country? Where is this Islamic System of Education? It’s nowhere, because it doesn’t exist! There is no Islamic System, there is Islamic knowledge. The 'Islamic System of Education,' is the same system as Christianity, and that system is the system of enlightening the hearts. There is NO Islamic System of Education. Education is education.

 3)   Free the Pakistani and non-Pakistani members of Taliban from jail

I really do not understand this logic. In order to bring about Sharia Law, you are killing Muslims? Does it make sense? You are killing the Americans and the British. You are killing humanity. Why? To bring about Sharia? That is ridiculously terrible! Those who have killed thousands of people, they have been captured by the police and are in the jails. You want them to be set free? That is not possible, it cannot be done.

 4)   Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces

I do not have a problem with that. The tribal leaders should be given the control over the tribal areas. It is understandable. The local people should be given the control, therefore there is no need for infiltration.

 5)   Withdrawal of the army from tribal areas 

The problem is, the army is there to stop terrorism; the army is not there for gaining control over these areas. What they should do is set these tribal areas free and make a boundary line, borders so that Pakistanis cannot go there and you (those in the tribal areas) cannot come here (to Pakistan).

 6)   All criminal allegations against Taliban dropped

They are so innocent! They haven’t committed any other crime for except mass murder, massacre, carnage, and organised butchery of humankind. They are carrying out the gravest from of criminology: to kill somebody. What else can you do? You can’t do more than killing a person. And they say this is not a crime? Is it a good thing to blow up the mosques and disrespect the Quran and Hadith? They say that these are 'criminal allegations' on them; you are carrying out mass murders and then you say they are putting 'criminal allegations' on you?

 7)   Equal rights for all, poor and rich

How can the government provide this? They are all crooks and thieves. Equal rights should be provided to the poor and rich alike, however, is this practical? It is not practical.

 8)   Stop supporting the United States of America on the War on Terror

It would be inhumane not to support the US on the War on Terror, because supporting someone in the cause of stopping terrorism is not a bad thing. To help somebody control terrorism is a good cause and it should not stop.

 9)   Replace the democratic governance with the Islamic system

These people are really ignorant. On one hand, they said, 'Prophet Mohammad was involved in politics and democracy,' and now they are separating democracy from Islam. After the departure of Prophet Mohammad, everybody was sitting and Omar bin Khattab said, 'Abu Bakr should be appointed for [the duty of] Caliph,' and as soon as he said it, almost everybody started to say this. They said, 'This is now democracy; this is what people want.' They said that since a majority of people wanted Abu Bakr to be appointed as Caliph, therefore, he should be appointed as Caliph. What was this? This was democracy. Now you are saying forget about democracy and introduce Islam? Islam also talks about democracy.

 10)   Stop all relations with the US

They should be asked: why should Pakistan stop all relation with the US, is it because they are Kafir? What about Russia, China, Japan, France and Germany? They are all Christians, what is so special and bad about America? Why only America? Then they will say, 'Stop all relations with all countries,' okay, then you will stand alone. They should ask Taliban, 'The machine guns and the motor vehicles that you are using, did you make them on the Islamic method?' Most of the ammunition comes from Russia, China and America. You are using it, but you don’t want any relations with America, but why? What is so bad about America that is not about Russia or China? Nothing! They are just ridiculing the Constitution of Pakistan and the word of God, Quran; nothing else.

Prophet Mohammad always maintained a good relationship with Christians. There was a Christian King, Najashi, and oftentimes Prophet Mohammad would send his Companions to go to that Christian King and seek for help. When the Companions of the Prophet came to see Najashi, he said, 'What does your Prophet say about Jesus and Mother Mary?' They would recite the Quranic Verse Maryam and that Christian King used to cry and say, 'That is very true!' That Christian King gave those Companions of the Prophet asylum and he helped them. Now, you want to cut off all sorts of relationship with America? The question is, why? Is America stopping you from building a mosque or from introducing Sharia Law? America will not stop you from adopting Sharia and Islam. [You may] adopt Sharia and Islam, but how many Pakistanis want to adopt Sharia? How many half-naked women want to become practical Muslims? It is very disheartening to know, but in Pakistan most girls who go to colleges and universities are part-time prostitutes in order to maintain their lifestyle; people are dying of hunger. They are doing prostitution not as fashion, but as a matter of necessity.

People do not have food to eat and you are talking about Sharia Law. There is terror; no business is safe and no human being is safe. What kind of Sharia Law are they talking about, their own understanding of Islam and Sharia? Saudi Arabia and UAE are all behind this Taliban. Saudi Arabia is the worst enemy of humanity. They are spending all their gold-money and petrol-money on these atrocities and to help and support Taliban and Al-Qaeda. The UK and USA must stop Saudi Arabia from helping the terrorists.

Saudi Arabia is a white collar terrorist; they are enjoying themselves in their palaces and they have hired lunatic and emotional Muslims. They are doing everything; every prince has 200 young girls. Where is Islam? 

Now Syria is under the control of Al-Qaeda and Taliban. There is a fatwa (verdict) from Saudi Arabia, 'These Mujahideen of Taliban and Al-Qaeda, who are fighting in Syria, all Muslim girls and women should go and sleep with them. It is good. This is how you can support this cause.' You are inviting them to become prostitutes in the name of God? Is this Islam? Is this Sharia? People still think Saudis are Muslims! That is as terrible as it can be. They said for the women to go sleep with the Mujahideen and even have kids with them, without entering into Nikkah (marriage). They are inviting Muslim women to commit adultery in the name of God, in the name of Islam, and they say this will be a great act of Ajr (reward). They are the real culprits, these Saudis. They are fooling the Pakistanis. The Saudis have big palaces in Pakistan, and who gave it to them? The politicians of Pakistan. Pakistan has relationships with America, this is why you want to destroy Pakistan? But, what about Saudi Arabia, do they not have a relationship with America? If Pakistanis are infidels and hypocrites because they have a relationship with America, what about the Saudis? They have stronger ties with America than the Pakistanis. Why are they not bad? Why are they not wrong? The governors and politicians of Pakistan are bastards; neither do they have any interest in Islam nor do they care about Pakistan. They have no religion. Their religion is only money and the devil; nothing else.

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